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The question whether or not to allow pets and other animals to be offered or requested on Freegle can be a controversial one. It is also a decision that is up to local communities to decide on their main message boards. On ChitChat, no live creatures can be offered, requested or sold – this rule was adopted in July 2022, see [[ChitChat#Moderation]]. | |||
The question whether or not to allow pets and other animals to be offered or requested on Freegle can be a controversial one. It is also a decision that is up to local | |||
(‘Other animals’ include live animal feed, e.g. mice or locusts to be fed to reptiles, and livestock, e.g. poultry.) | (‘Other animals’ include live animal feed, e.g. mice or locusts to be fed to reptiles, and livestock, e.g. poultry.) | ||
Some | Some communities do not allow animal posts of any description; some allow offers but not wanteds. Some allow posts for animals that local centres do not cater for, such as fish. | ||
PETA wrote to the Board in 2022 asking for a national policy prohibiting offers of live animals. The Board discussed it and decided it was to remain a local decision. https://discourse.ilovefreegle.org/t/message-from-peta/4918 | PETA wrote to the Board in 2022 asking for a national policy prohibiting offers of live animals. The Board discussed it and decided it was to remain a local decision. https://discourse.ilovefreegle.org/t/message-from-peta/4918 | ||
===Your | ===Your community's policy=== | ||
When deciding whether or not to allow pet and animal posts the | When deciding whether or not to allow pet and animal posts the volunteer team may want to consider the following: | ||
* What local facilities are already available for re-homing pets, such as rescue centres. | * What local facilities are already available for re-homing pets, such as rescue centres. | ||
* Whether the | * Whether the community is an urban one or a rural one. | ||
* Whether the | * Whether the volunteer team have the time and experience to give to this. | ||
* Whether to run a poll on the | * Whether to run a poll on the community - if you have polled your members, that can be helpful when dealing with complaints. Be aware that there have been instances of news of such a poll might reach organisations who have very strong opinions on the subject, and they may encourage people to join your community with the single purpose of voting on the poll. You may want to consider suspending new applications for the duration of the poll. | ||
* The Pet Advertising Advisory Group (http://paag.org.uk/) offers good advice for those wanting a new pet and is a good resource for your | * The Pet Advertising Advisory Group (http://paag.org.uk/) offers good advice for those wanting a new pet and is a good resource for your community to use to help members. The RSPCA, Blue Cross and other major charities are all members of PAAG. They are all concerned with inappropriate online advertising of animals. | ||
* Lucy's Law covers the selling and adoption of puppies and we should be mindful of the implications if puppies are offered or requested on Freegle - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lucys-law-spells-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-puppy-farming | * Lucy's Law covers the selling and adoption of puppies and we should be mindful of the implications if puppies are offered or requested on Freegle - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lucys-law-spells-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-puppy-farming | ||
* A checklist - https://icatcare.org/advice/the-kitten-checklist/ - for rehoming kittens is worth considering if you intend to allow kittens to be offered and/or requested. | * A checklist - https://icatcare.org/advice/the-kitten-checklist/ - for rehoming kittens is worth considering if you intend to allow kittens to be offered and/or requested. | ||
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*Members may wish to have contact with the person they re-home their pet with. | *Members may wish to have contact with the person they re-home their pet with. | ||
*Allowing pets gives members more choice as to how they can use their | *Allowing pets gives members more choice as to how they can use their community, making the community less restrictive. | ||
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*Can increase workload. | *Can increase workload. | ||
*Can increase the number of complaints both the | *Can increase the number of complaints both the community and Freegle nationally gets - people have been known to boycott communities that allow animal posts. | ||
*You may feel uneasy about animals being re-homed without the safety checks and vetting (pun intended) offered by rescue centres. | *You may feel uneasy about animals being re-homed without the safety checks and vetting (pun intended) offered by rescue centres. | ||
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* Keep an up to date list of local and national animal rescue centres to send to people wanting to rehome live creatures (See [[Animal Rehoming Links]] ) | * Keep an up to date list of local and national animal rescue centres to send to people wanting to rehome live creatures (See [[Animal Rehoming Links]] ) | ||
* Establish a good relationship with your local rescue and rehoming centres | * Establish a good relationship with your local rescue and rehoming centres – your community can help them with things they want (bedding, carriers, baskets, cages etc) and you will be in a stronger position if you do get challenged if you can respond with well informed information about your community's policy. | ||
* Get a Pet Mod. A Pet Mod is solely in charge of handling all animal posts. See [[Pet Mods]] for some guidance on how this role can be carried out. | * Get a Pet Mod. A Pet Mod is solely in charge of handling all animal posts. See [[Pet Mods]] for some guidance on how this role can be carried out. | ||
* Messages relating to lost pets are | * Messages relating to lost pets are more suited to ChitChat than to the main Freegle boards. | ||
* An example of a local no-animal policy can be found [[no animal policy|here]] and one allowing pets [[Local Pet Policy|here]]. | * An example of a local no-animal policy can be found [[no animal policy|here]] and one allowing pets [[Local Pet Policy|here]]. | ||
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====General Reply as used nationally==== | ====General Reply as used nationally==== | ||
The central Freegle mailbox gets the occasional member complaining about their local | The central Freegle mailbox gets the occasional member complaining about their local community allowing animal posts. Where possible, all emails are forwarded to the local community concerned to deal with, but often members want Freegle to adopt a national policy. An example of the Mailbox response to that type of email is: | ||
"Thank you very much for your concern. We have guidelines for | "Thank you very much for your concern. We have guidelines for communities that offer pets which mention the points you have made but as we are a network of independent communities, each community has its own policy on whether live creatures can be rehomed via their community. | ||
You have mentioned cats and dogs, but our | You have mentioned cats and dogs, but our communities are offered a much larger - and usually less emotive - range of live creatures. Hamsters, gerbils, rats, mice, birds, rabbits, guinea pigs, chinchillas, fish, giant land snails, snakes, locusts and others have all been offered. When deciding on a local policy, the volunteer team will take the whole range of animals into account in their decision. | ||
Some of our | Some of our communities allow no live creatures at all, some allow small creatures, others allow all animals. Each community responds to the local need for rehoming, which often charities are not able to fulfill. The first port of call is always recommended to be local rehoming centres but usually those with cats and dogs have already unsuccessfully tried that avenue. There are very few, if any, outlets nationwide for fish, rodents, reptiles, birds etc. With the current economic situation creating record numbers of unwanted dogs and cats for charities to deal with, other creatures can stand little chance of rehoming because it is traditionally cats, dogs and horse/donkey charities that attract the financial and emotional support of the public. | ||
All our volunteers take seriously their responsibilities in running their | All our volunteers take seriously their responsibilities in running their communities. As we are a network of individual communities, run by local people, we are able to respond to local need. You haven't mentioned which charity or group you represent, but if animal welfare charities offered their help and time to their local Freegle community, it could provide a much better situation for the many unwanted live creatures there are in the UK." | ||
====Rejection Message for post==== | ====Rejection Message for post==== | ||
A sample message for rejection of a post on your | A sample message for rejection of a post on your community: [[Animals (rejection message)]] | ||
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*[[Frogspawn]] | *[[Frogspawn]] | ||
[[Category:Pets/Animals| ]] | |||
[[category:Specific Items]] | [[category:Specific Items]] |
Latest revision as of 17:26, 7 November 2024
The question whether or not to allow pets and other animals to be offered or requested on Freegle can be a controversial one. It is also a decision that is up to local communities to decide on their main message boards. On ChitChat, no live creatures can be offered, requested or sold – this rule was adopted in July 2022, see ChitChat#Moderation.
(‘Other animals’ include live animal feed, e.g. mice or locusts to be fed to reptiles, and livestock, e.g. poultry.)
Some communities do not allow animal posts of any description; some allow offers but not wanteds. Some allow posts for animals that local centres do not cater for, such as fish.
PETA wrote to the Board in 2022 asking for a national policy prohibiting offers of live animals. The Board discussed it and decided it was to remain a local decision. https://discourse.ilovefreegle.org/t/message-from-peta/4918
Your community's policy
When deciding whether or not to allow pet and animal posts the volunteer team may want to consider the following:
- What local facilities are already available for re-homing pets, such as rescue centres.
- Whether the community is an urban one or a rural one.
- Whether the volunteer team have the time and experience to give to this.
- Whether to run a poll on the community - if you have polled your members, that can be helpful when dealing with complaints. Be aware that there have been instances of news of such a poll might reach organisations who have very strong opinions on the subject, and they may encourage people to join your community with the single purpose of voting on the poll. You may want to consider suspending new applications for the duration of the poll.
- The Pet Advertising Advisory Group (http://paag.org.uk/) offers good advice for those wanting a new pet and is a good resource for your community to use to help members. The RSPCA, Blue Cross and other major charities are all members of PAAG. They are all concerned with inappropriate online advertising of animals.
- Lucy's Law covers the selling and adoption of puppies and we should be mindful of the implications if puppies are offered or requested on Freegle - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lucys-law-spells-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-puppy-farming
- A checklist - https://icatcare.org/advice/the-kitten-checklist/ - for rehoming kittens is worth considering if you intend to allow kittens to be offered and/or requested.
Advantages in allowing Animal posts
- There may not be local facilities in your area to re-home pets, making this a potentially useful service.
- Members may wish to have contact with the person they re-home their pet with.
- Allowing pets gives members more choice as to how they can use their community, making the community less restrictive.
Disadvantages in allowing Animal posts
- Can increase workload.
- Can increase the number of complaints both the community and Freegle nationally gets - people have been known to boycott communities that allow animal posts.
- You may feel uneasy about animals being re-homed without the safety checks and vetting (pun intended) offered by rescue centres.
Tips
- Keep an up to date list of local and national animal rescue centres to send to people wanting to rehome live creatures (See Animal Rehoming Links )
- Establish a good relationship with your local rescue and rehoming centres – your community can help them with things they want (bedding, carriers, baskets, cages etc) and you will be in a stronger position if you do get challenged if you can respond with well informed information about your community's policy.
- Get a Pet Mod. A Pet Mod is solely in charge of handling all animal posts. See Pet Mods for some guidance on how this role can be carried out.
- Messages relating to lost pets are more suited to ChitChat than to the main Freegle boards.
- See Frogspawn and tadpoles for specific advice on these seasonal messages!
Messages/Replies to Members
General Reply as used nationally
The central Freegle mailbox gets the occasional member complaining about their local community allowing animal posts. Where possible, all emails are forwarded to the local community concerned to deal with, but often members want Freegle to adopt a national policy. An example of the Mailbox response to that type of email is:
"Thank you very much for your concern. We have guidelines for communities that offer pets which mention the points you have made but as we are a network of independent communities, each community has its own policy on whether live creatures can be rehomed via their community.
You have mentioned cats and dogs, but our communities are offered a much larger - and usually less emotive - range of live creatures. Hamsters, gerbils, rats, mice, birds, rabbits, guinea pigs, chinchillas, fish, giant land snails, snakes, locusts and others have all been offered. When deciding on a local policy, the volunteer team will take the whole range of animals into account in their decision.
Some of our communities allow no live creatures at all, some allow small creatures, others allow all animals. Each community responds to the local need for rehoming, which often charities are not able to fulfill. The first port of call is always recommended to be local rehoming centres but usually those with cats and dogs have already unsuccessfully tried that avenue. There are very few, if any, outlets nationwide for fish, rodents, reptiles, birds etc. With the current economic situation creating record numbers of unwanted dogs and cats for charities to deal with, other creatures can stand little chance of rehoming because it is traditionally cats, dogs and horse/donkey charities that attract the financial and emotional support of the public.
All our volunteers take seriously their responsibilities in running their communities. As we are a network of individual communities, run by local people, we are able to respond to local need. You haven't mentioned which charity or group you represent, but if animal welfare charities offered their help and time to their local Freegle community, it could provide a much better situation for the many unwanted live creatures there are in the UK."
Rejection Message for post
A sample message for rejection of a post on your community: Animals (rejection message)
Links: