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		<title>Jacky: Created page with &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;STRUCTURE GROUP REPORT&#039;&#039;&#039;  &#039;&#039;&#039;November 2011&#039;&#039;&#039;  http://freegle.it/Structure    This is a summary of discussions since our last report of 30th October 2011, covering messages 9…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;STRUCTURE GROUP REPORT&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;November 2011&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  http://freegle.it/Structure    This is a summary of discussions since our last report of 30th October 2011, covering messages 9…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;STRUCTURE GROUP REPORT&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;November 2011&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://freegle.it/Structure&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a summary of discussions since our last report of 30th October 2011, covering messages 9436 to 9588.  Our membership stands at 68 (the same as last month).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The topics we have discussed this month are below.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Task 66 - Reps Co-opting Powers====&lt;br /&gt;
In the event of an early Rep vacancy we are discussing whether, instead of auto-promoting the first loser, Reps should be given the power to use their own judgement to co-opt someone for the remaining part of any election year for elected posts. A Start-of-Topic notice was posted on Central on 18th October 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Opinion on this has been divided with a wide range of thoughts being expressed. We ran some polls on Structure in an attempt to clarify further:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Poll 1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If an elected post becomes vacant in the period between the end of the&lt;br /&gt;
auto-promotion period and the next scheduled election for that post (not the end&lt;br /&gt;
of term for the post holder that is being replaced), should the Reps be able to&lt;br /&gt;
co-opt someone into that position if they wish to, subject to provisions to be&lt;br /&gt;
agreed in further polls?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHOICES AND RESULTS&lt;br /&gt;
- Yes, 16 votes, 76.19%&lt;br /&gt;
- No, 5 votes, 23.81%&lt;br /&gt;
- Abstain (please explain on group), 0 votes, 0.00%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Poll 2&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q1:&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Should Reps be able to co-opt someone for any elected post&lt;br /&gt;
(currently Reps, Ombudsmen and Returning Officers) or only for Reps posts, in&lt;br /&gt;
the period between auto-promotion and the next scheduled election for&lt;br /&gt;
the post?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHOICES AND RESULTS&lt;br /&gt;
- All elected posts, 7 votes, 41.18%&lt;br /&gt;
- Reps posts only, 10 votes, 58.82%&lt;br /&gt;
- Abstain, 0 votes, 0.00%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q2:&amp;#039;&amp;#039; If Reps can only co-opt a fellow Rep, should the ORO Team (ie. the&lt;br /&gt;
Ombudsman and Returning Officer Team) be able&lt;br /&gt;
to co-opt an Ombudsman or Returning Officer in the period between&lt;br /&gt;
auto-promotion and the next scheduled election for the post?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHOICES AND RESULTS&lt;br /&gt;
- Yes, 14 votes, 87.50%&lt;br /&gt;
- No, 2 votes, 12.50%&lt;br /&gt;
- Abstain, 0 votes, 0.00%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q3:&amp;#039;&amp;#039; If Reps or the ORO Team can&amp;#039;t co-opt an Ombudsman or Returning&lt;br /&gt;
Officer, should the Returning Officer or Ombudsman be able to co-opt&lt;br /&gt;
their fellow Returning Officer or Ombudsman by themselves in the&lt;br /&gt;
period between auto-promotion and the next scheduled election for the&lt;br /&gt;
post?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHOICES AND RESULTS&lt;br /&gt;
- Yes, 11 votes, 68.75%&lt;br /&gt;
- No, 5 votes, 31.25%&lt;br /&gt;
- Abstain, 0 votes, 0.00%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q4:&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Questions 1 - 3 assume the Returning Officer or Ombudsman will&lt;br /&gt;
be elected at the next scheduled election for the post which could in&lt;br /&gt;
some situations mean they are co-opted for more than a year.&lt;br /&gt;
Would it be better if they are elected at the next scheduled election for any&lt;br /&gt;
post, ie at the next Rep election if that comes before the next&lt;br /&gt;
scheduled election for the post, thereby minimising the time the post&lt;br /&gt;
is co-opted without having to schedule extra elections?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHOICES AND RESULTS&lt;br /&gt;
- Yes, 14 votes, 87.50%&lt;br /&gt;
- No, 2 votes, 12.50%&lt;br /&gt;
- Abstain, 0 votes, 0.00%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The questions currently being polled are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Poll 3&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Should the team (Reps or Ombudsman/Returning Officer) responsible for&lt;br /&gt;
co-option, post their proposal on&lt;br /&gt;
Central so that any objections can be lodged confidentially with them&lt;br /&gt;
before appointment?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
o Yes&lt;br /&gt;
o No&lt;br /&gt;
o Abstain&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q2&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Should any person co-opted into a normally elected position stand down at&lt;br /&gt;
the next election for that role, but be able to stand for that election if they wish?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
o Yes&lt;br /&gt;
o No&lt;br /&gt;
o Abstain&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q3:&amp;#039;&amp;#039; If co-option hasn&amp;#039;t happened within a set period of a vacancy&lt;br /&gt;
happening an election will be held:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
o Yes, after one (1) month&lt;br /&gt;
o Yes, after two (2) months&lt;br /&gt;
o Yes, after three (3) months&lt;br /&gt;
o No, wait until the next set of scheduled elections for any post (please note&lt;br /&gt;
this will require a constitutional change)&lt;br /&gt;
o Abstain&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Q4:&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Should a co-opted role holder have equal status and work on the&lt;br /&gt;
same basis as the elected post holders? (If the answer is &amp;#039;no&amp;#039; to this&lt;br /&gt;
question, we will run further polls to decide which aspects of the&lt;br /&gt;
role will be equal and which not.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
o Yes&lt;br /&gt;
o No&lt;br /&gt;
o Abstain&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
...discussions continue and poll 3 is still open, so if you’d like to express an opinion please come and join us. http://freegle.it/Structure&lt;br /&gt;
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====Reps election - need for a co-RO====&lt;br /&gt;
The Reps pointed out that there is a need for Stuart to appoint a Co Returning Officer with equal access to the RO account and the survey software and data to verify any manual changes he might need to make.&lt;br /&gt;
This is particularly important because of the option to delete/change votes until the election is over.&lt;br /&gt;
Kathy, Ombudsman, agreed to step in to help the Returning Officer for this current election.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Task List====&lt;br /&gt;
Our Task List can be viewed at http://freegle.it/StructureTasks&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If any of the above topics interest you, or if you have proposals about the structure of Freegle to suggest, please do join our group. http://freegle.it/Structure&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Coordinator for this group is Jacky (Great Yarmouth) Deputy Coordinator is Peter Johnson (Hunts) and Secretary is Wendy (Woodley) Owners are Jacky, Peter and Wendy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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