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	Freegle Tech Report January 2019<BR>		Freegle Tech Report January 2019<BR>
	Messages 26694-26792<BR>		Messages 26694-26792<BR>
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	== General ==		== General ==
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	We have problems getting emails to some members using some email providers. Edward is going to try a new approach which we've talked about in the past. We can check our servers using a reputation site like senderscore.org, and we score 85 out of 100. That isn't bad - for example Olio gets 81. Freecycle scores 97, so it could clearly be better. You can also check your mail reputation using Google Postmaster Tools. Everything on there looks excellent except our IP reputation, which is medium.<BR>		We have problems getting emails to some members using some email providers. Edward is going to try a new approach which we've talked about in the past. We can check our servers using a reputation site like senderscore.org, and we score 85 out of 100. That isn't bad - for example Olio gets 81. Freecycle scores 97, so it could clearly be better. You can also check your mail reputation using Google Postmaster Tools. Everything on there looks excellent except our IP reputation, which is medium.<BR>
	Once a member has been inactive for a year, we will now stop sending them digest emails (of messages/events/volunteering etc). They'll still be members of the group if they come back to us, and we'll still handle replies/chat messages. We're just not sending regular mails to them. There are a few reasons for doing this, but the main one is spam filtering. Some servers use "honeytraps". Often old or recycled email addresses which are no longer attached to real people, so if we mail this kind of address we are liable to be labeled a spammer. There are various services which will verify your emails for you, but we've tried them, and they're not that great. <BR>		Once a member has been inactive for a year, we will now stop sending them digest emails (of messages/events/volunteering etc). They'll still be members of the group if they come back to us, and we'll still handle replies/chat messages. We're just not sending regular mails to them. There are a few reasons for doing this, but the main one is spam filtering. Some servers use "honeytraps". Often old or recycled email addresses which are no longer attached to real people, so if we mail this kind of address we are liable to be labeled a spammer. There are various services which will verify your emails for you, but we've tried them, and they're not that great. <BR>


	== Direct ==		== Direct ==
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	We’ve now got a first version of this (on dev, not live). On someone's popup profile, you now see a new button. It'll have red counts where people have outstanding active posts.<BR>We’'ve never been entirely happy with 'News' as the name for the newsfeed section of the site. It would be nice to call it Chat, but we need Chat for what we would otherwise call Messages if it wasn't that people are used to thinking of posts as messages when they're not called posts. We have and are discussing alternatives which are short and gets across what it's about. Cafe is short but makes no sense to a lot of people. Present suggestions include Chit chat, Discussion, and Natter.<BR>		We’ve now got a first version of this (on dev, not live). On someone's popup profile, you now see a new button. It'll have red counts where people have outstanding active posts.<BR>We’'ve never been entirely happy with 'News' as the name for the newsfeed section of the site. It would be nice to call it Chat, but we need Chat for what we would otherwise call Messages if it wasn't that people are used to thinking of posts as messages when they're not called posts. We have and are discussing alternatives which are short and gets across what it's about. Cafe is short but makes no sense to a lot of people. Present suggestions include Chit chat, Discussion, and Natter.<BR>
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	'''Q&A''' <BR>		'''Q&A''' <BR>
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	As part of this, I've restructured the code so that all the photo uploading goes through the same place. This will make it easier to replace the current photo uploader we use with something better if we find it. <BR>		As part of this, I've restructured the code so that all the photo uploading goes through the same place. This will make it easier to replace the current photo uploader we use with something better if we find it. <BR>
	Chris and I are both looking for something better. So if you see any problems with photo uploading, please let me know asap. This includes seeing the raw white "Choose file" button, rather than that our buttons (usually green "Add Photo").<BR>		Chris and I are both looking for something better. So if you see any problems with photo uploading, please let me know asap. This includes seeing the raw white "Choose file" button, rather than that our buttons (usually green "Add Photo").<BR>


	== Mobiles & Tablets ==		== Mobiles & Tablets ==
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	Not all moderators are seeing the message counts on their phones and tablets. Seems to be Android ones.<BR>		Not all moderators are seeing the message counts on their phones and tablets. Seems to be Android ones.<BR>
	It's worth noting that a recent Android change means that when you clear notifications from the notifications bar it also clears counts on the icons, even if you've not clicked to view the notification. <BR>		It's worth noting that a recent Android change means that when you clear notifications from the notifications bar it also clears counts on the icons, even if you've not clicked to view the notification. <BR>


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	Q. I've just had a message from a member saying: "Somehow I have been linked now to Bury & Newmarket but I live in the Ipswich area. How do I correct this?" So - he must have done something today (but what?) that signed him up to a different group.<BR>		Q. I've just had a message from a member saying: "Somehow I have been linked now to Bury & Newmarket but I live in the Ipswich area. How do I correct this?" So - he must have done something today (but what?) that signed him up to a different group.<BR>
	A.He posted without signing in probably. In these cases it will send the post to what it considers is his nearest group, and also join you up or put in pending members. He can remove himself from the other group at https://ilovefreegle.org/unsubscribe or he can remain and when he next posts change the group shown on the bottom of the first page. This will then be the default. This area mapping is being looked at by GAT just now, but as where he lives has not been assigned to any area as yet it will choose automatically the one with the nearest boundary,<BR>		A.He posted without signing in probably. In these cases it will send the post to what it considers is his nearest group, and also join you up or put in pending members. He can remove himself from the other group at https://ilovefreegle.org/unsubscribe or he can remain and when he next posts change the group shown on the bottom of the first page. This will then be the default. This area mapping is being looked at by GAT just now, but as where he lives has not been assigned to any area as yet it will choose automatically the one with the nearest boundary,<BR>



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	Joining with Support rights is making people mods<BR>		Joining with Support rights is making people mods<BR>
	Here are the more important ones which would affect members: NIL<BR>		Here are the more important ones which would affect members: NIL<BR>


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Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Tech Chat */ dfsdf

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	Elaine Message counts aren’t showing .<BR>		Q.Elaine Message counts aren’t showing .<BR>
	Maggie S I agree elaine, but to be on the pc and not notice a message is sitting there for you :( ive just turned on my tablet before bed and there was no notification on the icon (as before) that there was unread messages here, so not sure whats going on. as your message elaine shows as an hour ago but no number showing on the blue banner above again<BR>		Maggie S I agree elaine, but to be on the pc and not notice a message is sitting there for you :( ive just turned on my tablet before bed and there was no notification on the icon (as before) that there was unread messages here, so not sure whats going on. as your message elaine shows as an hour ago but no number showing on the blue banner above again<BR>
	~~:(Elaine~~		I'm sure Ed will sort it, whatever "it" is!! <BR>
	I'm sure Ed will sort it, whatever "it" is!!
	A.'''Edward Hibbert It's a difficult one. Both Chris and I are struggling with it.'''		A.'''Edward Hibbert It's a difficult one. Both Chris and I are struggling with it.'''
	Maggie S its not doing it all the time, like this morning it was showing a count, so a bit up and down		Maggie S its not doing it all the time, like this morning it was showing a count, so a bit up and down
	Elaine I know that an intermittent problem is about 25x harder to pin-point and fix than a total breakdown, andI'm sure we all appreciate all the efforts and time that our Tech Elves are putting into resolving this annoying, but realistically minor, Niggle.		Elaine I know that an intermittent problem is about 25x harder to pin-point and fix than a total breakdown, andI'm sure we all appreciate all the efforts and time that our Tech Elves are putting into resolving this annoying, but realistically minor, Niggle.
	Elaine Can anyone tell me where I can see how much my group has kept out of Landfill? We have been going just over a year, and it would be nice to see!		Elaine Can anyone tell me where I can see how much my group has kept out of Landfill? We have been going just over a year, and it would be nice to see!
	'''A. David https://www.ilovefreegle.org/stats/ReadingFreegleUK'''		'''A. David https://www.ilovefreegle.org/stats/ReadingFreegleUK'''<BR>
	A'''.Edward On the Explore page for your group there's a More stats link.'''		A'''.Edward On the Explore page for your group there's a More stats link.''' <BR>
	'''David ust go to bottom of page above after you have put your group name in . The link above is from when you explore one group'''		'''David ust go to bottom of page above after you have put your group name in . The link above is from when you explore one group'''<BR>
	Q. Liz This just in from a member I've checked her mail status its on every day? "I’m not getting my mail for items Iv asked for which means I’m letting people down when they let me know i can have stuff. but I don’t get it for a few days. Regards Margaret <BR>		Q. Liz This just in from a member I've checked her mail status its on every day? "I’m not getting my mail for items Iv asked for which means I’m letting people down when they let me know i can have stuff. but I don’t get it for a few days. Regards Margaret <BR>
	''' A.Liz, may not be the answer to her problem at the moment but she is also a member of Hertford and has two different log-ons and email addresses. I seem to remember she may have had problems in the past because she posted on one of these and then checked the other - with nil result! Is it worth checking if she is also doing this on your group too?'''		''' A.Liz, may not be the answer to her problem at the moment but she is also a member of Hertford and has two different log-ons and email addresses. I seem to remember she may have had problems in the past because she posted on one of these and then checked the other - with nil result! Is it worth checking if she is also doing this on your group too?'<BR>''
	Q. Susanbanderson We have a member who receives SMS message reminders of new chat messages. She would like to stop this because of the cost to Freegle, but she cannot see how to turn them off. I don't know how to do that for her either. How is it done please? <BR>		Q. Susanbanderson We have a member who receives SMS message reminders of new chat messages. She would like to stop this because of the cost to Freegle, but she cannot see how to turn them off. I don't know how to do that for her either. How is it done please? <BR>
	'''A Saira I'd guess if she goes into her settings, deletes the phone number in the "text alerts" section at the bottom of the page and saves ... they should stop.'''		'''A Saira I'd guess if she goes into her settings, deletes the phone number in the "text alerts" section at the bottom of the page and saves ... they should stop.'''
	susanbanderson Yes of course Saira - no other reason for her number to be in there. Thanks. :-) Wanda @susan There isn't a way to for membranes to stop them right now, Ed can remove the number manually. I think he's working on a fix so members can stop it themselves. Let Ed know the member info and he'll sort it for you.		susanbanderson Yes of course Saira - no other reason for her number to be in there. Thanks. :-)
	'''~~Bold text~~'''A Edward Hibbert It's supposed to show a button there to delete the number, but there's a bug. I've fixed that but it's not live yet.<BR>		'''A. Wanda @susan There isn't a way to for membranes to stop them right now, Ed can remove the number manually. I think he's working on a fix so members can stop it themselves. Let Ed know the member info and he'll sort it for you'''.'''
	Q. Jacqui Can someone help please? kandjbright-g4767@user.trashnothing.com member cannot find how to post a taken. She sees nothing obvious in trash nothing. Likewise she sees no offers in Freegle. What’s going on?		A Edward Hibbert It's supposed to show a button there to delete the number, but there's a bug. I've fixed that but it's not live yet.<BR>'''
	Saira If she's a Trashnothing member doesn't she have to go through Trashnothing??? I have no idea really - just guessing.		Q. Jacqui Can someone help please? kandjbright-g4767@user.trashnothing.com member cannot find how to post a taken. She sees nothing obvious in trash nothing. Likewise she sees no offers in Freegle. What’s going on?<BR>
	'''A. cqui.... she has a gmail address with her name and area - tell her to log into Freegle using that and she'll find her posts :)<BR>		'''Saira If she's a Trashnothing member doesn't she have to go through Trashnothing??? I have no idea really - just guessing.
			'''A. cqui.... she has a gmail address with her name and area - tell her to log into Freegle using that and she'll find her posts :)<BR>'''
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	== 'Support ==		== 'Support ==

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Tech Chat */ dfa

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	Elaine Message counts aren’t showing .		Elaine Message counts aren’t showing .<BR>
	Maggie S I agree elaine, but to be on the pc and not notice a message is sitting there for you :( ive just turned on my tablet before bed and there was no notification on the icon (as before) that there was unread messages here, so not sure whats going on. as your message elaine shows as an hour ago but no number showing on the blue banner above again :(		Maggie S I agree elaine, but to be on the pc and not notice a message is sitting there for you :( ive just turned on my tablet before bed and there was no notification on the icon (as before) that there was unread messages here, so not sure whats going on. as your message elaine shows as an hour ago but no number showing on the blue banner above again<BR>
	Elaine		:(Elaine
	I'm sure Ed will sort it, whatever "it" is!!		I'm sure Ed will sort it, whatever "it" is!!
	Edward Hibbert It's a difficult one. Both Chris and I are struggling with it.		A.'''Edward Hibbert It's a difficult one. Both Chris and I are struggling with it.'''
	Maggie S its not doing it all the time, like this morning it was showing a count, so a bit up and down		Maggie S its not doing it all the time, like this morning it was showing a count, so a bit up and down
	Elaine I know that an intermittent problem is about 25x harder to pin-point and fix than a total breakdown, andI'm sure we all appreciate all the efforts and time that our Tech Elves are putting into resolving this annoying, but realistically minor, Niggle.		Elaine I know that an intermittent problem is about 25x harder to pin-point and fix than a total breakdown, andI'm sure we all appreciate all the efforts and time that our Tech Elves are putting into resolving this annoying, but realistically minor, Niggle.
	Elaine Can anyone tell me where I can see how much my group has kept out of Landfill? We have been going just over a year, and it would be nice to see!		Elaine Can anyone tell me where I can see how much my group has kept out of Landfill? We have been going just over a year, and it would be nice to see!
	David https://www.ilovefreegle.org/stats/ReadingFreegleUK		'''A. David https://www.ilovefreegle.org/stats/ReadingFreegleUK'''
	Edward On the Explore page for your group there's a More stats link. F		A'''.Edward On the Explore page for your group there's a More stats link.'''
	David ust go to bottom of page above after you have put your group name in . The link above is from when you explore one group		'''David ust go to bottom of page above after you have put your group name in . The link above is from when you explore one group'''
			Q. Liz This just in from a member I've checked her mail status its on every day? "I’m not getting my mail for items Iv asked for which means I’m letting people down when they let me know i can have stuff. but I don’t get it for a few days. Regards Margaret <BR>
	Liz This just in from a member I've checked her mail status its on every day? "I’m not getting my mail for items Iv asked for which means I’m letting people down when they let me know i can have stuff. but I don’t get it for a few days. Regards Margaret		''' A.Liz, may not be the answer to her problem at the moment but she is also a member of Hertford and has two different log-ons and email addresses. I seem to remember she may have had problems in the past because she posted on one of these and then checked the other - with nil result! Is it worth checking if she is also doing this on your group too?'''
	~~Jeni~~ Liz, may not be the answer to her problem at the moment but she is also a member of Hertford and has two different log-ons and email addresses. I seem to remember she may have had problems in the past because she posted on one of these and then checked the other - with nil result! Is it worth checking if she is also doing this on your group too?		Q. Susanbanderson We have a member who receives SMS message reminders of new chat messages. She would like to stop this because of the cost to Freegle, but she cannot see how to turn them off. I don't know how to do that for her either. How is it done please? <BR>
	~~Elaine We recently had a member complaining about a similar problem~~. He'd checked his trash, and there was just no sign of any messages. Then, after a lot of checking and to and fro with Chris, he checked his blocked senders list, and there we were! He had accidentally blocked us, for some reason, and hence was getting none of our posts! Always worth a look....?!		'''A Saira I'd guess if she goes into her settings, deletes the phone number in the "text alerts" section at the bottom of the page and saves ... they should stop.'''

	Susanbanderson We have a member who receives SMS message reminders of new chat messages. She would like to stop this because of the cost to Freegle, but she cannot see how to turn them off. I don't know how to do that for her either. How is it done please?
	Saira I'd guess if she goes into her settings, deletes the phone number in the "text alerts" section at the bottom of the page and saves ... they should stop.
	susanbanderson Yes of course Saira - no other reason for her number to be in there. Thanks. :-) Wanda @susan There isn't a way to for membranes to stop them right now, Ed can remove the number manually. I think he's working on a fix so members can stop it themselves. Let Ed know the member info and he'll sort it for you.		susanbanderson Yes of course Saira - no other reason for her number to be in there. Thanks. :-) Wanda @susan There isn't a way to for membranes to stop them right now, Ed can remove the number manually. I think he's working on a fix so members can stop it themselves. Let Ed know the member info and he'll sort it for you.
	Edward Hibbert It's supposed to show a button there to delete the number, but there's a bug. I've fixed that but it's not live yet.		'''Bold text'''A Edward Hibbert It's supposed to show a button there to delete the number, but there's a bug. I've fixed that but it's not live yet.<BR>
	Jacqui Can someone help please? kandjbright-g4767@user.trashnothing.com member cannot find how to post a taken. She sees nothing obvious in trash nothing. Likewise she sees no offers in Freegle. What’s going on?		Q. Jacqui Can someone help please? kandjbright-g4767@user.trashnothing.com member cannot find how to post a taken. She sees nothing obvious in trash nothing. Likewise she sees no offers in Freegle. What’s going on?
	Saira If she's a Trashnothing member doesn't she have to go through Trashnothing??? I have no idea really - just guessing.		Saira If she's a Trashnothing member doesn't she have to go through Trashnothing??? I have no idea really - just guessing.
	~~Jacqui~~.... she has a gmail address with her name and area - tell her to log into Freegle using that and she'll find her posts :)<BR>		'''A. cqui.... she has a gmail address with her name and area - tell her to log into Freegle using that and she'll find her posts :)<BR>
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	If you have a query on an individual member you are probably better going through support and supplying them with the email address and details to prevent their email being put out there on the internet. Support can then check their logs , accounts, chats, and see any logins and actions which the member has done. Anything we can't sort we forward to IT anyway. They can also made small changes on the mapping. <BR>		If you have a query on an individual member you are probably better going through support and supplying them with the email address and details to prevent their email being put out there on the internet. Support can then check their logs , accounts, chats, and see any logins and actions which the member has done. Anything we can't sort we forward to IT anyway. They can also made small changes on the mapping. <BR>

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	I am struggling to delete a config, I created . I want to replace it with a more up to date clone of the default config. I’ve tried 3-4 times on both dev and live and the pop up comes up asking me to confirm, I click that, the page flashes and then briefly the settings section displays then goes away and just get green blank page. So I hard refresh, select Mod configs and there it is, still not gone.<BR>		I am struggling to delete a config, I created . I want to replace it with a more up to date clone of the default config. I’ve tried 3-4 times on both dev and live and the pop up comes up asking me to confirm, I click that, the page flashes and then briefly the settings section displays then goes away and just get green blank page. So I hard refresh, select Mod configs and there it is, still not gone.<BR>
	Q. Please can someone tell me the name of the moderating app. I got the Freegle one from ilovefreegle.org.uk/mobile but it seems to be designed for members to post, not moderators to moderate ......... or am I missing something due to my rapid learning curve with a smartphone.<BR>		Q. Please can someone tell me the name of the moderating app. I got the Freegle one from ilovefreegle.org.uk/mobile but it seems to be designed for members to post, not moderators to moderate ......... or am I missing something due to my rapid learning curve with a smartphone.<BR>
	A .Just put in modtools as one word, in your <BR>		A .Just put in modtools as one word, in the search in your app store. <BR>


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	Jacqui Can someone help please? kandjbright-g4767@user.trashnothing.com member cannot find how to post a taken. She sees nothing obvious in trash nothing. Likewise she sees no offers in Freegle. What’s going on?		Jacqui Can someone help please? kandjbright-g4767@user.trashnothing.com member cannot find how to post a taken. She sees nothing obvious in trash nothing. Likewise she sees no offers in Freegle. What’s going on?
	Saira If she's a Trashnothing member doesn't she have to go through Trashnothing??? I have no idea really - just guessing.		Saira If she's a Trashnothing member doesn't she have to go through Trashnothing??? I have no idea really - just guessing.
	Jacqui.... she has a gmail address with her name and area - tell her to log into Freegle using that and she'll find her posts :)		Jacqui.... she has a gmail address with her name and area - tell her to log into Freegle using that and she'll find her posts :)<BR>


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	~~Support~~		Jean<BR>
	If you have a query on an individual member you are probably better going through support and supplying them with the email address and details to prevent their email being put out there on the internet. Support can then check their logs , accounts, chats, and see any logins and actions which the member has done. Anything we can't sort we forward to IT anyway. They can also made small changes on the mapping.		Freegle Tech<BR>
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