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	'''Freegle Tech Report August 2016		{{Archive\|reason=Dated Tech Group meeting reports.}}
			'''Freegle Tech Report August 2016
	Posts 17850-18296		Posts 17850-18296
	Members 107'''		Members 107'''


	== General ==		== General ==
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	It was finding and sending replies to other email addresses the poster may own because the part of the DB which should hold the prefered email wasn’t updating.. <br>		It was finding and sending replies to other email addresses the poster may own because the part of the DB which should hold the prefered email wasn’t updating.. <br>
	A problem with the keeping of mail settings in sync between FDv2 and FDv3 (which sends the mails) was found and sorted..		A problem with the keeping of mail settings in sync between FDv2 and FDv3 (which sends the mails) was found and sorted..


	== Questions & Answers. ==		== Questions & Answers. ==


	Q. I'm confused about how to log in. I used to use Facebook but then had to use Yahoo for modtools. As I will be turning Yahoo off for my group and none of my accounts match the email address used for Yahoo how will it recognise me as a moderator?<br>		Q. I'm confused about how to log in. I used to use Facebook but then had to use Yahoo for modtools. As I will be turning Yahoo off for my group and none of my accounts match the email address used for Yahoo how will it recognise me as a moderator?<br>
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	'''Facebook'''		'''Facebook'''
	To get away from Yahoo Groups completely we had a poll on hosting a trial group on Facebook ~~but as~~ a significant number said they would not join the idea was dropped.<br>		To be able to get away from Yahoo Groups completely we had a poll on hosting a trial group on Facebook for the Tech group. As a significant number said they would not join the idea was dropped.<br>
	<br>		<br>
	Jean<br>		Jean<br>
	Freegle Tech<br>		Freegle Tech<br>

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Mobile App */c

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	== Mobile App ==		== Mobile App ==

	I am hoping to be able to port the new website code to the mobile app, but that it is not certain. Even if I can, it is unlikely to be ready for the changeover date, so the app will not work for the duration. Existing users will see a message at startup. For users on the latest version, it will only show a message and a big button to go to the website; for users on older versions, the app will show a message but try to communicate with the server and will probably show some error messages.<br>		I am hoping to be able to port the new website code to the mobile app, but that it is not certain. Even if I can, it is unlikely to be ready for the changeover date, so the app will not work for the duration.<br>
			Existing users will see a message at startup. For users on the latest version, it will only show a message and a big button to go to the website; for users on older versions, the app will show a message but try to communicate with the server and will probably show some error messages.<br>
	Chris<br>		Chris<br>

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Questions & Answers. */ x

2016-09-09T11:22:03Z

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	A It depends a bit on how you sign in. Sometimes it will use some of the email address. But often it's random. This is to avoid asking people for a name. You can change it later in Settings. <br>		A It depends a bit on how you sign in. Sometimes it will use some of the email address. But often it's random. This is to avoid asking people for a name. You can change it later in Settings. <br>
	Q. Can we still have footers on emails, and could we have something like random tips put in them?<br>		Q. Can we still have footers on emails, and could we have something like random tips put in them?<br>
	FDv3 will strip out as many footers as it can - because most of them are specific to some particular way of using the group and won't make sense otherwise. The tips idea isn't planned, though there is some newsletter function that with some work would be available for individual groups to use. ~~<br>~~		A FDv3 will strip out as many footers as it can - because most of them are specific to some particular way of using the group and won't make sense otherwise. The tips idea isn't planned, though there is some newsletter function that with some work would be available for individual groups to use. However many of the things we do as tips are because we haven't had the ability to either help people get it right, or trap scams. So most effort will be on improving that. That way members don't have to remember things.<br>
	However many of the things we do as tips are because we haven't had the ability to either help people get it right, or trap scams. So most effort will be on improving that. That way members don't have to remember things.
	Q. Where will the MM shortlinks land? <br>		Q. Where will the MM shortlinks land? <br>
	A https://iznik.ilovefreegle.org/<br>		A https://iznik.ilovefreegle.org/<br>

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Questions & Answers. */ z

2016-09-09T11:20:28Z

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	A The Facebook Share Button code does NOT tap into the Android native share option. However if you are signed in to Facebook within Chrome, then the share box does pop up on top of the current page to let you share. So: if you do sign in once, then subsequent shares will be much neater.<br>		A The Facebook Share Button code does NOT tap into the Android native share option. However if you are signed in to Facebook within Chrome, then the share box does pop up on top of the current page to let you share. So: if you do sign in once, then subsequent shares will be much neater.<br>
	Q. I joined with a new email and found this member for approval alingumbere-30031798@l. Is the name semi-random?<br>		Q. I joined with a new email and found this member for approval alingumbere-30031798@l. Is the name semi-random?<br>
	~~AIt~~ depends a bit on how you sign in. Sometimes it will use some of the email address. But often it's random. This is to avoid asking people for a name. You can change it later in Settings. <br>		A It depends a bit on how you sign in. Sometimes it will use some of the email address. But often it's random. This is to avoid asking people for a name. You can change it later in Settings. <br>
	Q. Can we still have footers on emails, and could we have something like random tips put in them?<br>		Q. Can we still have footers on emails, and could we have something like random tips put in them?<br>
	FDv3 will strip out as many footers as it can - because most of them are specific to some particular way of using the group and won't make sense otherwise. The tips idea isn't planned, though there is some newsletter function that with some work would be available for individual groups to use. <br>		FDv3 will strip out as many footers as it can - because most of them are specific to some particular way of using the group and won't make sense otherwise. The tips idea isn't planned, though there is some newsletter function that with some work would be available for individual groups to use. <br>
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	If a member uses the help/contact form on the site, then queries will get put in as messages in a chat window on ModTools between the member and the group mods. This means that there is a record of the conversation which can be seen by all mods, and the system will know whether a query has had a reply or not.<br>		If a member uses the help/contact form on the site, then queries will get put in as messages in a chat window on ModTools between the member and the group mods. This means that there is a record of the conversation which can be seen by all mods, and the system will know whether a query has had a reply or not.<br>
	Members can also reach the mods, Yahoo permitting, by mailing the -owner address.<br>		Members can also reach the mods, Yahoo permitting, by mailing the -owner address.<br>
	There is a function in the Support Tools section of ModTools for contacting groups, which Support and Mailbox can and should use. That mails the Yahoo owner address and optionally any personal addresses we have, so it's more reliable than the -owner address.		There is a function in the Support Tools section of ModTools for contacting groups, which Support and Mailbox can and should use. That mails the Yahoo owner address and optionally any personal addresses we have, so it's more reliable than the -owner address.


	== Mobile App ==		== Mobile App ==

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Mobile App */ f

2016-09-09T11:19:52Z

Mobile App: f

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	There is a function in the Support Tools section of ModTools for contacting groups, which Support and Mailbox can and should use. That mails the Yahoo owner address and optionally any personal addresses we have, so it's more reliable than the -owner address.		There is a function in the Support Tools section of ModTools for contacting groups, which Support and Mailbox can and should use. That mails the Yahoo owner address and optionally any personal addresses we have, so it's more reliable than the -owner address.

	==Mobile App ==
			== Mobile App ==

	I am hoping to be able to port the new website code to the mobile app, but that it is not certain. Even if I can, it is unlikely to be ready for the changeover date, so the app will not work for the duration. Existing users will see a message at startup. For users on the latest version, it will only show a message and a big button to go to the website; for users on older versions, the app will show a message but try to communicate with the server and will probably show some error messages.<br>		I am hoping to be able to port the new website code to the mobile app, but that it is not certain. Even if I can, it is unlikely to be ready for the changeover date, so the app will not work for the duration. Existing users will see a message at startup. For users on the latest version, it will only show a message and a big button to go to the website; for users on older versions, the app will show a message but try to communicate with the server and will probably show some error messages.<br>

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Questions & Answers. */ d

2016-09-09T11:18:58Z

Questions & Answers.: d

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Direct v3 */ s

2016-09-09T11:16:22Z

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	This will be a help to users, rather than them having to retype from scratch or copy and paste.<br>		This will be a help to users, rather than them having to retype from scratch or copy and paste.<br>
	'''‘Interested In’''' messages have started to go out from FDv3 so please let us know if you see problems with them. <br>		'''‘Interested In’''' messages have started to go out from FDv3 so please let us know if you see problems with them. <br>
	Whether to have different levels of access was discussed and the majority were in favour of two levels, but to omit references to ‘owner’~~<br>~~		Whether to have different levels of access was discussed and the majority were in favour of two levels, but to omit references to ‘owner’
	<br>'''Photo uploads'''		<br>'''Photo uploads'''
	Photo’s will now be resized in the browser in Chrome (which wasn't true before) and should therefore be a bit faster to upload. It will now upload in the background, so you can fill out the other boxes while it is doing it.		Photo’s will now be resized in the browser in Chrome (which wasn't true before) and should therefore be a bit faster to upload. It will now upload in the background, so you can fill out the other boxes while it is doing it.

Dorothyjeanquinn: /* Direct v3 */ a

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	'''‘Interested In’''' messages have started to go out from FDv3 so please let us know if you see problems with them. <br>		'''‘Interested In’''' messages have started to go out from FDv3 so please let us know if you see problems with them. <br>
	Whether to have different levels of access was discussed and the majority were in favour of two levels, but to omit references to ‘owner’<br>		Whether to have different levels of access was discussed and the majority were in favour of two levels, but to omit references to ‘owner’<br>
	<br>~~<br>~~		<br>'''Photo uploads'''
	'''Photo uploads'''
	Photo’s will now be resized in the browser in Chrome (which wasn't true before) and should therefore be a bit faster to upload. It will now upload in the background, so you can fill out the other boxes while it is doing it.		Photo’s will now be resized in the browser in Chrome (which wasn't true before) and should therefore be a bit faster to upload. It will now upload in the background, so you can fill out the other boxes while it is doing it.
	This is quite a sizeable change, so it would be good if people could test it (at https://iznik.ilovefreegle.org) on a variety of devices and browsers.		This is quite a sizeable change, so it would be good if people could test it (at https://iznik.ilovefreegle.org) on a variety of devices and browsers.
	<br>~~<br>~~		<br>

	'''Automatic Reposting'''<br>		'''Automatic Reposting'''<br>
	Sending out reminders for reposting has been fairly successful in FD2 FDv3 will take this a step further.		Sending out reminders for reposting has been fairly successful in FD2 FDv3 will take this a step further.
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	== Problems Fixed. ==		== Problems Fixed. ==

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	Q. I'm confused about how to log in. I used to use Facebook but then had to use Yahoo for modtools. As I will be turning Yahoo off for my group and none of my ~~account~~ match the email address used for Yahoo how will it recognise me as a moderator?<br>		Q. I'm confused about how to log in. I used to use Facebook but then had to use Yahoo for modtools. As I will be turning Yahoo off for my group and none of my accounts match the email address used for Yahoo how will it recognise me as a moderator?<br>
	A. It now tries hard to link accounts which are coming from the same person so try it and see!<br>		A It now tries hard to link accounts which are coming from the same person so try it and see!<br>
	Q. I just put a post on via the app but I did not get the option to share to Faceboook. <br>		Q. I just put a post on via the app but I did not get the option to share to Faceboook. <br>
	A The Facebook Share Button code does NOT tap into the Android native share option. However if you are signed in to Facebook within Chrome, then the share box does pop up on top of the current page to let you share. So: if you do sign in once, then subsequent shares will be much neater.<br>		A The Facebook Share Button code does NOT tap into the Android native share option. However if you are signed in to Facebook within Chrome, then the share box does pop up on top of the current page to let you share. So: if you do sign in once, then subsequent shares will be much neater.<br>
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	However many of the things we do as tips are because we haven't had the ability to either help people get it right, or trap scams. So most effort will be on improving that. That way members don't have to remember things.		However many of the things we do as tips are because we haven't had the ability to either help people get it right, or trap scams. So most effort will be on improving that. That way members don't have to remember things.
	Q. Where will the MM shortlinks land? <br>		Q. Where will the MM shortlinks land? <br>
	https://iznik.ilovefreegle.org/<br>		A https://iznik.ilovefreegle.org/<br>
	Q. Shouldn't people be prompted to set a password having done a post?<br>		Q. Shouldn't people be prompted to set a password having done a post?<br>
	It mails you a password when you sign up. Given that (hopefully) it remembers your sign in, it means an easier first experience for the member...<br>		A It mails you a password when you sign up. Given that (hopefully) it remembers your sign in, it means an easier first experience for the member...<br>
	Q. Is there an equivalent of the Yahoo owner address to give to members who want to contact the volunteers for a particular group?<br>		Q. Is there an equivalent of the Yahoo owner address to give to members who want to contact the volunteers for a particular group?<br>
	Not yet though probably will be once we have a stand alone platform. <br>		A Not yet though probably will be once we have a stand alone platform. <br>
	If a member uses the help/contact form on the site, then queries will get put in as messages in a chat window on ModTools between the member and the group mods. This means that there is a record of the conversation which can be seen by all mods, and the system will know whether a query has had a reply or not.<br>		If a member uses the help/contact form on the site, then queries will get put in as messages in a chat window on ModTools between the member and the group mods. This means that there is a record of the conversation which can be seen by all mods, and the system will know whether a query has had a reply or not.<br>
	Members can also reach the mods, Yahoo permitting, by mailing the -owner address.<br>		Members can also reach the mods, Yahoo permitting, by mailing the -owner address.<br>
	There is a function in the Support Tools section of ModTools for contacting groups, which Support and Mailbox can and should use. That mails the Yahoo owner address and optionally any personal addresses we have, so it's more reliable than the -owner address.		There is a function in the Support Tools section of ModTools for contacting groups, which Support and Mailbox can and should use. That mails the Yahoo owner address and optionally any personal addresses we have, so it's more reliable than the -owner address.

	==		==Mobile App ==
	Mobile App ==

	I am hoping to be able to port the new website code to the mobile app, but that it is not certain. Even if I can, it is unlikely to be ready for the changeover date, so the app will not work for the duration. Existing users will see a message at startup. For users on the latest version, it will only show a message and a big button to go to the website; for users on older versions, the app will show a message but try to communicate with the server and will probably show some error messages.<br>		I am hoping to be able to port the new website code to the mobile app, but that it is not certain. Even if I can, it is unlikely to be ready for the changeover date, so the app will not work for the duration. Existing users will see a message at startup. For users on the latest version, it will only show a message and a big button to go to the website; for users on older versions, the app will show a message but try to communicate with the server and will probably show some error messages.<br>
	Chris<br>		Chris<br>


	== Modtools ==		== Modtools ==